Showing posts with label Fort Hood. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fort Hood. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 10, 2009

-Fellow Muslim won't condemn Nidal Malik Hasan; has "no pity" for Fort Hood victims

The BBC's Gavin Lee paid a little visit to the Islamic mosque that Fort Hood shooter Major Nidal Malik Hasan frequented, and here is what "Duane"had to say on the matter. Prepare to be shocked. Or not if you're as jaded as we are.



Here's the transcript:

Duane: I’m not going to condemn him for what he did. I don’t know why he did it. I will not, absolutely not, condemn him for what he had done though. If he had done it for selfish reasons I still will not condemn him. He’s my brother in the end. I will never condemn him.

Lee: There might be a lot of people shocked to hear you say that.

Duane: Well, that’s the way it is. I don’t speak for the community here but me personally I will not condemn him.

Lee: What are your thoughts towards those that were victims in this?

Duane: They were, in the end, they were troops who were going to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Muslims. I honestly have no pity for them. It’s just like the majority of the people that will hear this, after five or six minutes they’ll be shocked, after that they’ll forget about them and go on their day.

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h/t IHatetheMedia

Thursday, November 5, 2009

-DailyKos readers weigh in on the Fort Hood shootings

via Stop The ACLU:

  • Molotov: idiots. you teach people to kill without remorse, then act surprised when they do

  • primarydoc: and we have to consider the selective disclosure/spin from the military if it turns out that the reason for the shooting might undermine our “noble” wars, as in the case of Pat Tillman or Jessica Lynch

  • Alien Abductee: Maybe he’s just seen too much destruction of the mental health of his fellow soldiers and finally snapped himself.

  • olo: Maybe they just put the gun in his hand because be looks like a brown terror monger, is named Hasan (sounds & looks similar to Hussein) — and was the most convenient of the dozen bodies to blame this shit on.)

  • ferralike: It appears through the latest reporting on MSNBC that the shooter who was killed, Army Maj Malik Nadal Hasan, was possibly enraged about being shipped over to Iraq per Chris Matthews (at ~ 5:55 est). So it sounds as if the second possibility I raised was more correct. However, this guy could have already served multiple tours and this could still be a PTSD related incident. Who knows?

    I actually feel for this guy if he was pushed to go this far that he flipped out and killed 12 and injured 31 (the number at this moment.) I hate that he did this and there are so many grieving and worried families but I doubt this was driven because he simply did not want to go over there on his first tour.

    If this is true, this is indicative of a much larger disaster imminently waiting to happen for many, many other soldiers about to be deployed. We can’t keep this up sending these soldiers over time after time and expecting them to come back without being mentally and emotionally affected. This is very very tragic.

  • Julia Grey: I personally hope very much that he isn’t black. He’d be made out as an Obama confederate, part of the underground preparations for the coup, a guy who was so excited about destroying America that he started too early, yadda yadda. It’s already bad enough that he has an Arabic name.

  • Lying eyes: Good thing Bush is no longer in charge…. continued… True. But I was thinking if this guy has an Arabic name and is a muslim, Bush would use the tragedy to attack Iran. Or some convenient country.

  • MillieNeon: I just hope this doesn’t come with a huge Muslim backlash, or kick Muslims out of the military, etc.

    How very say for the people who lost their lives, their families, for the moderate Muslim who already have so much difficulty in this country right now.

    And my heart really goes out to all the soldiers with PTSD. They need much more support and treatment. It’s immoral to bring people back from war and leave them in psychological torture chambers.

    Also, I think we should re-examine soldier training. They are taught to de-humanize the enemy so they can kill easier. How do you “undo” that? What are we doing to these poorsoldiers?

  • SantaFeMarie: Why is it “surely just coincidence” that people in Texas commit violent homicides?

  • The Navigator: Let’s all hope it’s not wingers or the radical right that did this, but rather just a few disturbed soldiers.

  • o the umanity: I still can’t figure out what happened. When I was a little girl, it was an honor to serve. My father and all my brothers did. So did my uncles and one of my grandfathers.

    And then came ‘Nam, and it’s been all downhill since


  • -Malik Nadal Hasan murders twelve soldiers at Fort Hood, media ignores his name

    malik nadal hasan fort hood shooter

    From Fox News:

    A military doctor who feared an impending war deployment is believed to be the gunman behind a shooting rampage Thursday afternoon at the Army's Fort Hood in Texas that killed 11 and wounded 31 before the gunman was fatally shot.

    Two soldiers were taken into custoy [sic] as possible suspects, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone told reporters Thursday evening, though the pair later were released and it isn't clear whether they they were involved in the violence.

    Authorities have not identified the gunman publicly, but official sources have named Major Malik Nadal Hasan, a psychiatrist who reportedly didn't believe in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and wanted out of the military before he was set to be deployed overseas.

    And since you can't put it much more eloquently than they did, here is how the gentlemen at I Hate the Media evaluated the media situation:

    We hear that a Major Malik Nadal Hasan has murdered, execution-style, twelve soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas. Political correctness be damned. To us, the shooter doesn’t sound Baptist, doesn’t sound Catholic, doesn’t sound Jewish, doesn’t sound Hindu, doesn’t sound Buddhist. What does that leave? We wonder. But, we do recall the story of the founder of the Muslim-American BridgesTV network that beheaded his wife in Buffalo, New York. His name? Muzzammil Hassan.

    It should be very, very interesting to see how this plays out.


    UPDATE: Previous reports on Hasan being killed at the scene are incorrect; he is in stable condition at a local hospital.